Bagging the DB-19

After days of fruitless searching, I finally found a shop in Macedonia with a stock of DB-19 male solder cup connectors. I bought them all! To be honest, I had to check a map to learn where Macedonia is, because it’s not exactly one of the top 10 most likely sources for electronic components. Total cost for 500 pieces including VAT and shipping was 27019 denar, or about $497 US dollars at current exchange rates, so that’s just under $1 per connector. Not bad, considering most other places wanted to charge $2 to $4 per connector, if they even had them in stock.
I may have to pay import duty tax. I’m not sure how that works, but I assume DHL or somebody will tell me what’s needed. The total price also includes about $50 in European VAT, which as a United States buyer I shouldn’t need to pay. Anyone have experience in getting VAT refunded? I presume there’s a form I need to send somewhere.
At almost the same time that I heard from Macedonia, I also got my first concrete response from a supplier in China about manufacturing new DB-19 connectors. We discussed two options: a soft tooling setup, with a lower initial setup fee but higher per-piece cost, or a hard tooling setup with the opposite cost balance. I asked for soft tooling. After many rounds of back and forth, I finally received a setup cost quote of (drum roll…) $11,185. They didn’t state what the per-piece cost would be after setup, but already it’s too expensive. Unless I could somehow band together with other DB-19 users in the Atari and Apple II communities for a large combined order of 10000+ pieces, it’s not practical.
I won’t rest easy until the package from Macedonia arrives. Even though they say they’re sending 500 pieces of DB-19P male solder cup connectors, and the photo on their web site looks right, I’ve found too many vendors whose web sites are out of date, or whose stock mysteriously disappears when you try to place an order. Or maybe they’ve got 500 DB-25 connectors in a mislabeled box, and will be sending those to me. I’m crossing my fingers in hopes that nothing will go wrong.
Floppy Emu demand has been widely variable, so I’m not sure if 500 pieces will be enough supply to last two years or only a few months. The Macedonian shop wasn’t sure if they could get more stock, so at some point I’ll likely run out of DB-19 connectors again. I’ll continue hunting for other sources and refining my DB-19 substitute designs.

Edit: I was just about to post this update, when I noticed the order confirmation page from the Macedonian shop says the order both was and wasn’t successful. So which is it? Ugh. The saga continues…
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It’s a Schroedinger’s order — it is both successful and unsuccessful until you open the box.
This is better than any TV crime drama – the ongoing adventures of the DB-19 connectors!
Yup. I struck out at with a promising source in Malaysia, and the $11,185 Chinese vendor hasn’t replied to my questions about the per-piece price. All other leads have turned up dry, or failed to respond at all. I contacted a couple of American manufacturers of electronic connectors about paying for a new production run, but was turned down flat. This Macedonian source is the *only* place I’ve found that claims to have DB-19 connectors in quantities larger than a few dozen. And even they only have 500, which won’t last forever. Long term, it looks like I’ll need to design a substitute of some kind.
Saw this the other week!
http://abra-electronics.com/connectors/d-sub-connectors/db19p-male-solder-d-sub-connector-19-pins-db19p.html
70c each and no dreeded VAT to pay
What about crowdfunding? Contact all possible people into electronics design of Retro stuff and find some manufacturing company to produce them. Maybe even make some campaign at indiegogo.
Yes. I reached out to several Atari and Apple retro-hardware people yesterday, and already heard back from a few of them. I didn’t realize the Amiga used DB-19 too. If you know anyone in the Amiga community (or elsewhere), that might want to participate in a group buy and commit to at least several hundred DB-19s, please pass the word along.
Hello.
Sorry for my mistake! Amiga uses DB23 for the external floppy interface bus, so it’s easier to modify a DB25 to fit in the male DB23.
I feel stupid!
Regards.